JUSTIN (as soon as Zach has picked up the phone): So you know that Gwen Stefani song, “Cool”?
JUSTIN: So do you think those lyrics are sincere or ironic?
ZACH: (Long pause.) I…
JUSTIN: Because, you know, it seems like it’s supposed to be coming from a sincere place, with all the stuff about them being totally happy for each other. But then I think, well you know, they say that if you take the time to write a whole song about how you’re totally okay with the way the relationship ended and that you’re both totally moved on … that maybe you’re not.
ZACH: Well, I…
JUSTIN: What I’m saying is I think maybe they’re not cool…
ZACH: (Long pause.) Um … I guess the lyrics sound pretty sincere to me.
JUSTIN: Yeah, I mean it is Gwen Stefani, right? It’s all heart-on-your-sleeve stuff; there’s never really many layers there. But those lyrics are kind of awful on their own, aren’t they? So I think … I think it would be a much better song if she were an unreliable narrator, that she’s really not over him.
JUSTIN: Next time you listen to that song, pretend that she’s just totally lying. Or, like, deluding herself. It’s a much better song that way.
ZACH: I guess. But if the lyrics are sincere, she really is deluding herself.
ZACH: (Pause.) I smell a blog post.
JUSTIN: Really? I was going to write one about the Chameleon…